梦话大王 发表于 2014-6-18 23:38:00

<div><br/></div><div><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: 0px="0px"auto; width: 971px; line-height: 21px; color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-family: 'verdana,宋体'; font-size: 14px;"><tbody><tr><td><div id="textstyle_119" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; list-style: none; margin: 0px="0px"auto; padding: 0px; line-height: 24px; word-wrap: break-word; word-break: break-all; overflow: hidden; text-indent: 24px;"><div class="quote" style="font-size: 12pt; list-style: none; line-height: 24px;"><b>以下是引用<i>楼外楼</i>在2014-6-18 15:46:00的发言:</b><br/><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; list-style: none;">&nbsp;</p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; list-style: none;">&nbsp;&nbsp;<font color="#000000" size="4" style="line-height: 27px;">呵呵,笑丝俺了,点评的好,点评的妙&nbsp;<img title="dvubb" border="0" align="middle" src="http://bbs.5zls.org/images/emot/em225.gif" qvod="0" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" style="border: 0px; vertical-align: middle;"/></font></p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; list-style: none;">&nbsp;</p></div><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; list-style: none;"><span style="font-size: large; color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">&nbsp;所以:感觉班长之长长于己!</span></p></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div>

小倩 发表于 2014-6-19 11:16:00

<span style="font-size: large; ">无意看到隔壁一个回帖,有点想笑,这不是第一次了,另一次有女同学(有点冒失的)跑我帖子里回帖就有点把我逗笑了,不过一是看都没有什么恶意,二是看到她待朋友一片“心肝牵带痛”的明显傻冒气,也就罢了。</span><div><span style="font-size: large; "><br/></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large; ">不过有点是要申明的,有的女性被男性友人在公众论坛上描写大腿不会感不适,“又惊又喜又慌又怕”,但不能要求其他女同学都如此秀逗,毕竟人家不是你,你的心肝宝贝也不是人家的不是。<span style="font-weight: bold; ">你有你的感受,别人有别人的。</span></span></div><div><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: large; "><br/></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large; ">终究没什么“深仇大恨”也没有现实生活里的什么利益纠葛,骂来骂去其实是很没意思的。至于人与人的往来,这个只能看<span style="font-weight: bold; ">每个人自己的意愿</span>。</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large; "><br/></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large; ">我回这一贴,当然也是想到灯光,怕她脾气比我急。但她的优点也比我多,譬如待人真诚、甚至赤诚。(她天性正直诚实,相当直率)我向来冷淡甚至冷漠的,没兴趣就直接无视漠视,八杆子打不着的人,犯不着啊(一则在合法范围内每个人有做人的小自由,至于合理不合理又另一说,二则俺没有帮助别人“追求进步”的义务也不愿意浪费自己的精力与时间:人的精力和时间本来就<span style="text-decoration: underline;">极其有限</span>,个人力量很有限有时甚至无暇自顾;显然俺比灯光更自我也可说是“自私”,要不她怎么叫路网灯光呢);她略不同,她珍视每一份曾待她真诚的友谊,不惜浪费语句心力,但也因此失望也可能更多。</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large; "><br/></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large; ">至于其他一些语词是非,颠来倒去的说法,有话说“兴趣是最好的老师”,人的一生也长也短,只有做自己真心喜欢的事,才可长久方可进步,这也是看人,看个人了。没什么好多啰嗦的。</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large; "><br/></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large; "><span style="text-decoration: underline;">自己是怎么样的,难道不该是自己最了解最清楚吗</span>。还需要别人来肯定否定来换取表浅的轻浮的短暂的高兴或不高兴?那些东西很快就过去了,生命的本质仍是孤独且独自。</span></div>

小倩 发表于 2014-6-19 11:22:00

<span style="font-size: large;">昨晚我在读诗(听起来很浪漫吧?呵呵,其实也是忙完一堆琐事难得坐下来以后,其他还有一些事要做,锻炼身体也要循序渐进长期坚持的;睡晚了,因此的确上网时间越来越少了——可以说,除了转转自己常看的网页还有查资料,我很少上网),有点笔记还没整理出来,就在这儿顺便分享了。</span>

小倩 发表于 2014-6-19 11:27:00

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小倩 发表于 2014-6-19 11:46:00

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<h1 style="margin: 0cm="0cm"0cm="0cm"0.0001pt; background-color: white; "><span style="font-size: large; ">我的即时随笔:<span lang="EN-US" style="font-weight: normal; "><o:p></o:p></span></span></h1>

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<h1 style="font-weight: normal; margin: 0cm="0cm"0cm="0cm"0.0001pt; background-color: white; "><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: large;">黄灿然是谁?你有可能知道,有可能不知道。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></h1>

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<h1 style="font-weight: normal; margin: 0cm="0cm"0cm="0cm"0.0001pt; background-color: white; "><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: large;">他是一位诗人,并且,在我看来,是当前不可不认识的一位诗人,译诗者。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></h1>

<h1 style="font-weight: normal; margin: 0cm="0cm"0cm="0cm"0.0001pt; background-color: white; "><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: large;">他的诗与译诗哪个更好?这个很难,也无从比较,但的确,他是位专注、勤奋、敬业的人。做自己真正喜欢的事,这是这类人所行走的道路,即便是清贫,即便是寂寞。他是一位近乎隐逸派的诗人、译者,新闻很少,知道他的人也未必很多。但在购书的时候,尤其是一些优秀的西方文学译著,也许你会越来越多地看到他的名字。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></h1>

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<h1 style="font-weight: normal; margin: 0cm="0cm"0cm="0cm"0.0001pt; background-color: white; "><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: large;">我一直觉得,优秀的人是无法掩其光芒的。在这个越来越庸碌化、快餐化、大众娱乐化的时代,生于<span lang="EN-US">1963</span>年的黄灿然,即是其一。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></h1>

<h1 style="font-weight: normal; margin: 0cm="0cm"0cm="0cm"0.0001pt; background-color: white; "><span style="font-weight: normal; "><span style="font-size: large;">黄灿然是福建泉州人,<span lang="EN-US">1978</span>年移居香港,为《大公报》工作多年。他译诗,也写诗——事实上,我认为只有写诗的人才能更好地译诗:如果一位译者不懂得诗歌的语词、意象、节奏、韵律<span lang="EN-US">……</span>如何能如实而生动地翻译一首所有文体中最难翻译的诗歌呢?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p></o:p></span></span></h1>

小倩 发表于 2014-6-19 12:07:00

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="font-weight: normal; background-color: white; "><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: 宋体; ">在我的阅读书目中,有黄灿然翻译的苏珊</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">.</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; ">桑塔格作品,这位二十世纪最出色的女人之一,有着令一般女人叹为观止甚至望而却步的勇气、刚毅与才华。如一颗熠熠闪亮的人间星辰。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="font-weight: normal; background-color: white; "><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: 宋体; ">我想黄灿然只翻译那些“他喜爱的”人的作品,除了桑塔格之外,他还翻译了奥地利著名诗人里尔克、智利诗人聂鲁达、秘鲁诗人巴列霍、希腊诗人卡瓦菲斯、美籍苏联诗人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(17, 17, 17); background-color: white; background-position: initial="initial"initial; background-repeat: initial="initial"initial; ">约瑟夫<span lang="EN-US">·</span>布罗茨基<span lang="EN-US">……</span>的诗集,还有文艺青年们钟爱的卡尔维诺、库切<span lang="EN-US">……</span>作品。他挑选译作的眼光与他自身文笔一样独特且有个性。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="font-weight: normal; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(17, 17, 17); background-color: white; background-position: initial="initial"initial; background-repeat: initial="initial"initial; font-size: large;">他书房的书籍堆积如山,他只能从一片书的汪洋里扒出来一小块地方够坐就行。他不藏书,他买书只为了有用,态度相当洒脱。他还不能对着窗口望着窗外的风景做事,如他自己所说,即便已经名利双收,真正要做翻译还是如苦行僧。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="font-weight: normal; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(17, 17, 17); background-color: white; background-position: initial="initial"initial; background-repeat: initial="initial"initial; font-size: large;">黄灿然的模样平凡、瘦削,眉头轻皱,穿白背心让你没准以为是隔壁下来散步遛弯的大叔。才华<span lang="EN-US">……</span>这东西自己喜欢就好,若能有益于他人就更妙。起码,作为读者,在拿起别人精心的劳动成果时,还是要在心里说声谢谢的。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="font-weight: normal; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(17, 17, 17); background-color: white; background-position: initial="initial"initial; background-repeat: initial="initial"initial; font-size: large;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="font-weight: normal; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(17, 17, 17); background-color: white; background-position: initial="initial"initial; background-repeat: initial="initial"initial; font-size: large;"><o:p><br/></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(17, 17, 17); background-color: white; font-size: large; "><span style="font-weight: bold;">以下转附几首黄灿然的译诗还有他自己创作的诗歌</span>。</span><b style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 14px; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

小倩 发表于 2014-6-19 12:15:00

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><b><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">黄灿然译诗:</span></b></p><p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><b><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;"><br/></span></b></p><p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><b><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;"><br/></span></b></p><p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="font-size: large;"><b><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); ">亚当·扎加耶夫斯基:</span></b><b style="line-height: 18pt; font-family: Verdana; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); ">《尝试赞美这残缺的世界》</span></b></span></p><p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="font-size: large;"><b style="line-height: 18pt; font-family: Verdana; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); "><br/></span></b></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">尝试赞美这残缺的世界。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">想想六月漫长的白天,<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">还有野草莓、一滴滴红葡萄酒。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">有条理地爬满流亡者<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">废弃的家园的荨麻。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">你必须赞美这残缺的世界。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">你眺望时髦的游艇和轮船;<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">其中一艘前面有漫长的旅程,<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">别的则有带盐味的遗忘等着它们。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">你见过难民走投无路,<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">你听过刽子手快乐地歌唱。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large; ">你应当赞美这残缺的世界。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large; ">想想我们相聚的时刻,<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large; ">在一个白房间里,窗帘飘动。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large; ">回忆那场音乐会,音乐闪烁。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large; ">你在秋天的公园里拾橡果,<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large; ">树叶在大地的伤口上旋转。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large; ">赞美这残缺的世界<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large; ">和一只画眉掉下的灰色羽毛,<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large; ">和那游离、消失又重返的<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="line-height:18.0pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); "><span style="font-size: large;">柔光。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; "><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; line-height: 18pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large; "><span style="font-weight: bold;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><br/></p><p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><br/></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="font-size: large;"><b><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); ">菲利普·雅科泰:《黎明》</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); "><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">1.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">夜不是我们所想像的,火的相反,<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">太阳的死亡和光的否定,<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">而是一种设计,用来发现<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">白天里看不见的事物。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">可见事物的热情的仆人们<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">退走后,紫罗兰开始在<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">渐渐幽深的阴影里安居,那是<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">流放的灵魂的最后庇护所。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">2.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">像睡在灯盏里的油忽然<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">在鸟群掠过的月光下<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">把自己变成微亮并开始呼吸,<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">你也喃喃低语和燃烧;没有人类的声音<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">可以传达这种特质。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">你是从寒冷的河面升起的光,<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">从田野里跃起的云雀;<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">大地一无遮蔽,喜不自禁。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">3.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">我对你说话,黎明,虽然我的话<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">也许像飞行中的鸟儿一样轻。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">光捉摸不定,一拥抱它<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">它就变成阴影;但是<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">又一次,仿佛听到了我的祈祷,<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">太阳升起并送来第一线光。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">&nbsp;</span></p><p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;"><br/></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); ">(作者是当代法国</span><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); ">诗人,<span lang="EN-US">1925</span>年生于瑞士</span><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); ">。他被认为是战后最重要的法国诗人之一,但是相对于当代一些著名法国诗人,他显得默默无闻,这当然与他的隐遁有点关系。喜欢大自然的人,也都喜欢孤独,而雅科泰是一位喜欢大自然中最初始、最宁静也最微妙的时刻——黎明——的诗人,被誉为黎明诗人。)</span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-size: large;"><br/></span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: large; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-weight: normal; font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(85, 85, 85); ">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; ">卡瓦菲斯</span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">:</span></span></span><span style="font-size: large; font-family: Verdana; font-weight: bold;">《我房间的四壁》</span></p><p style="font-weight: normal; "><span style="font-size: large; font-family: Verdana; "><br/></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; "><span style="font-size: large;">我知道他们都很可怜,<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><br/>
</span>知道我这些朋友应当<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><br/>
</span>得到别的装饰,更显眼,<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><br/>
</span>更多,也更大。<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; "><span style="font-size: large;">但这些话到底是什么意思?<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><br/>
</span>我的四壁有更好的风度:<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><br/>
</span>它们不会为了我的才华而爱我。<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><br/>
</span>它们可不像人们那样。<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; "><span style="font-size: large;">此外,它们知道我的物件<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><br/>
</span>只会存在一阵子,<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><br/>
</span>我也是。我的欢乐和忧伤<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><br/>
</span>以及我在这尘世上的一切<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p style="font-family: Verdana; font-weight: normal; "><span style="font-size: large;">将转瞬消逝。坚固的四壁<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><br/>
</span>对这些才华漠不关注。<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><br/>
</span>它们很长命,不要求从我这短暂人生<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><br/>
</span>得到任何东西。<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

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小倩 发表于 2014-6-19 12:21:00

<span style="font-size: large;">我一贯不大喜欢,也不完全赞同对诗歌像老学究一样解析得“支离破碎”地去读诗(包括在读书与读什么“名著导航”之间我也尤其不支持后者——这点上,觉得永远都是自己去读原著,自己去品味与感受为好),觉得还是由自己去融入所读的诗歌之中,像鱼儿潜入水中,自由、快乐。</span>

小倩 发表于 2014-6-19 12:29:00

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="font-weight: normal; line-height: 150%; "><span style="font-size: large;"><b><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">黄灿然的诗:</span></b><a name="1"></a><a name="2"></a><a name="3"></a><a name="4"></a><a name="15"></a><a name="5"></a><a name="6"></a><a name="7"></a><a name="8"></a><a name="12"></a><a name="21"></a><a name="42"></a><a name="43"></a><a name="44"></a><a name="46"></a><a name="47"></a><a name="48"></a><a name="49"></a><a name="58"></a><a name="01"></a><a name="23"></a><a name="16"></a><a name="17"></a><a name="18"></a><a name="19"></a><a name="20"></a><a name="33"></a><a name="11"></a><a name="9"></a><a name="13"></a><b><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="font-weight: normal; line-height: 150%; "><b><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); font-size: large;"><br/></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="font-weight: normal; line-height: 150%; "><b><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); font-size: large;"><br/></span></b></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="line-height: 150%; "><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); font-weight: bold; ">《杜甫》</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-weight: normal; line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="font-weight: normal; line-height: 150%; "><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); font-size: large;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="font-weight: normal; line-height: 150%; "><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">他多么渺小,相对于他的诗歌;</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">他的生平捉襟见肘,象他的生活。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">只给我们留下一个褴缕的形象,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">叫无忧者发愁,叫痛苦者坚强。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
<br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">上天要他高尚,所以让他平凡;</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">他的日子象白米,每粒都是艰难。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">汉语的灵魂要寻找适当的载体,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">这个流亡者正是它安稳的家园。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
<br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">历史跟他相比,只是一段插曲;</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">战争若知道他,定会停止干戈。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">痛苦,也要在他身上寻找深度。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
<br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">上天赋予他不起眼的躯壳,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">装着山川,风物,丧乱和爱,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">让他一个人活出一个时代。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="font-weight: normal; line-height: 150%; "><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); font-size: large;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="font-weight: normal; line-height: 150%; "><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); font-size: large;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="line-height: 150%; "><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); font-weight: bold; ">《一生就是这样在泪水中》</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-weight: normal; line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="font-weight: normal; line-height: 150%; "><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); font-size: large;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="font-weight: normal; line-height: 150%; "><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">一生就是这样在泪水中默默吞忍。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">从黑暗中来,到白云中去,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">从根茎里来却不能回泥土里去,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">一生就是这样在时光中注满怨恨。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
<br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">一生就是这样在时光中戕害自身。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">在烟雾中思考,在思考中沉睡,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">在处心积虑中使灵魂伤痕累累</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">——<br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">一生就是这样在火光中寻找灰烬。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
<br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">就是这样,用牙齿、用刺,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">用一个工具挖掘一生的问题;</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">用回忆消愁,用前途截断退路,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">用春天的枝叶遮住眼中的耻辱。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
<br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">就是这样,把命运比作淤血,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">把挫折当成病,把悲哀的债务还清;</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">就是这样发闷、发呆、发热,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">发出痛哭的叹息并在痛苦中酝酿绝症。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
<br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">一生就是这样在痛苦中模拟欢乐。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">做砖、做瓦、做牛、做马,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">做那被制度阻隔的团圆梦,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">一生就是这样在诺言中迁徙漂泊。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
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</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">一生就是这样在守望中舔起伤口。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">对人冷漠,对己残酷,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">对世界视若无睹,对花草不屑一顾,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">一生就是这样在反省中拒绝悔悟。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
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</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">就是这样,吃惊,然后镇静,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">蠢蠢欲动然后打消念头,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">猛地想起什么,又沮丧地被它逃走,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">就是这样困顿、疑惑、脑筋僵硬。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
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</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">就是这样建设、摧毁、不得安宁。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">在挖掘中被淘汰,在吞忍中被戕害,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">在碌碌无为中被迫离开</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">——<br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">一生就是这样在迁徙漂泊中饱尝悲哀。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
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</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">一生就是这样在爱与被爱中不能尽情地爱。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">回忆一夜千金的温馨,把脑筋拧了又拧,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">回忆稻田、麦浪、飞蛾,想一生是多么失败,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">一生就是这样在饱尝挫折中积郁成病。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><br/>
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</span><span style="line-height: 150%; font-family: 宋体; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); ">人就是这样,在泪水中结束一生。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height: 150%; font-family: simsun, serif; color: rgb(50, 62, 50); "><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<h1 style="font-weight: normal; margin: 0cm="0cm"0cm="0cm"0.0001pt; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: large;">&nbsp;</span></h1><div style="font-weight: normal; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: large;"><br/></span></div><div><span lang="EN-US" style="font-weight: bold; font-size: large;">《炉火》</span></div><div style="font-weight: normal; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: large;"><br/></span></div><div style="font-weight: normal; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: large;"><br/></span></div><div style="font-weight: normal; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: large;">听着:生活像一个火炉,</span></div><div style="font-weight: normal; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: large;">有些人围着它坐,享受温暖,渐渐感到疲乏,</span></div><div style="font-weight: normal; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: large;">渐渐把含糊的话留在唇边睡去。</span></div><div style="font-weight: normal; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: large;"><br/></span></div><div style="font-weight: normal; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: large;">另一些人在户外,在寒冷中,</span></div><div style="font-weight: normal; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: large;">他们甚至不用走近炉火,哪怕只远远地</span></div><div style="font-weight: normal; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: large;">看见火光,已感到一片温暖流遍全身。</span></div>

小倩 发表于 2014-6-19 12:41:00

<span style="font-size: large;">好了,这次灌水就到这儿吧。</span><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br/></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">灯光,要开心哦。</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">我也是,也要尽量开心些的。</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large; color: rgb(128, 128, 128);">(虽然在面对生活里的琐事时,我有时还会不耐烦,也不喜欢老有那么些家务要做,哪怕是只有我跟猫咪的)</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br/></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">还有妞,寂寥是难免的,毕竟这几乎已经是个“老年坛子”了呀。</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br/></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">人生路漫漫,好好走。</span></div>
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灯光 发表于 2014-6-19 14:22:00

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<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>小倩</i>在2014-6-19 12:41:00的发言:</b><br/>
<div><span style="FONT-SIZE: large">灯光,要开心哦。</span></div></div>
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<p><font color="#000000" size="4">呵呵,小倩,无需为我担心。经过那么多论坛历练后,我早就刀枪不入了。其实,在我以为你已然走掉,所以开始意兴阑珊、准备“归隐”时,她那一帖,能把你又引出来,我还得感谢她呢。感谢的原因具体如下:</font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000" size="4">1. 以你的柔弱和与世无争(做人较“冷淡”和自我化,不爱管闲事),却毅然挺身而出为我挡刀,这种“千金难买”的温暖和幸福,又有几人可有幸领略呢?</font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000" size="4">2. 大千世界无奇不有,我读帖时最大的感觉是:哦,原来世界上还有这样的女人呀!她真的很让我开眼界,并且由此引发了我的一些关于女性主义的思考(等会儿附在后面)。我喜欢可以让我增长见识、刺激我深化思维的帖子。这也是论坛交流的最大益处之一,对人的快速成长和成熟,都帮助很大。</font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000" size="4">3. 又可以读到你清雅的文字和分享的美文(诗)、美乐,而这真是不可多得的人间美事。其中的快乐,的确属于“子非鱼焉知鱼之乐”呢。</font></p></div></td></tr></tbody></table><br/></p>
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灯光 发表于 2014-6-19 14:28:00

<p>&nbsp;<font color="#000000" size="4">关于女性主义的几点思考:</font> </p>
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<p><font color="#000000" size="4">1. 不少人对不觉醒、不觉悟的女人们,都有过“哀其不幸,怒其不争”的叹息。其实,这还不算最令人叹息的事,最令人叹息的是你在为其哀、怒,而那些女人根本不领情,觉得你是“狗拿耗子多管闲事”。</font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000" size="4">2. 人必自侮,然后人侮之。女性主义运动已经进行了这么久,不少男人依然轻视、轻薄女性,有性别偏见和歧视,这往往是因为一些女人的不自尊甚至是自轻自贱造成的。数年前某书生曾对我说,他一进路网,就有女人求了跟他睡觉,甚至在一年内他就遇到了好几次这样的事。我当时的回复是:“居然还有这样的女人们,闻所未闻”。后来我又从有人那里听说了路网的不少“真人真事”,才不那么“少见多怪”。</font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000" size="4">3. 清末时革命党被杀后,围观时最兴高采烈、最急着去对尸体践踏一番并剥皮吃肉喝血的,往往正是革命党要去拯救的“民众”。与之类似的是,自古以来,最恨女人的,往往是女人。而且这些女人眼中最可恨、最该杀的,是那些“与众不同”的女人,比如一些以美貌蛊惑男人、导致男人“误国殃民”的“狐狸精”(你看看这些词汇,这些对男人责任的推卸),妲己、杨贵妃、陈圆圆等等,不都因此成了男人们的替罪羊吗?再比如当今提倡自尊自重自强自爱的与女性主义者,一旦她们与男人有冲突了,最先朝她们扔砖头,最先喊打喊杀的,一定是女人。</font></p>
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灯光 发表于 2014-6-19 14:39:00

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<p><font color="#000000" size="4">虽然有这些感叹、无奈和悲凉,但我依然无法学乖,依然无法不当一个女性维权者。在任何时刻,我都不会仅仅因为某个男人与我私交不错、对我很敬重,就视而不见、姑息放纵他去轻视、侮辱、伤害别的女人。当初与书生的冲突,如今与梦王的冲突,根本原因都在于此。</font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000" size="4">我觉得所有女人都是弱者。在我的做人原则或道义中,恃强凌弱,最令我不齿。前几年在论坛经历了因为幼稚、过执、较真,而与女性冲突并由此带来的极度痛苦、自责和内疚后,我早就暗暗发誓:好女,绝不与女斗。与女人一旦有冲突时,即使我无法违心地去迎合,至少可以避开。真不是因为害怕(我的口头禅之一就是:世上没有我怕做的事,只有我不愿做的事),而是因为哀怜或疼惜。再貌似强悍的女人,其实也是弱者呀!而弱者与弱者之间,即使不能相互扶持,也应尽力不相互搏击吧。唉,所谓“因为懂得,所以慈悲”吧。</font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000" size="4">至于那些否定或扣来的贬低、辱骂性帽子,自然无法伤到我,如你所说,“自己是怎么样的,难道不该是自己最了解最清楚吗”。所以,请放心。其实,我读帖后反而有了一定的恻隐之心呢。因为,如果真不在乎或真看不起你我,也不会有这么强烈的受伤反应和酸葡萄心理呀。</font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000" size="4">另:其实,后续的麻烦,都是妞兄惹出来的。妞兄这次该接受教训了吧?东郭先生当不得呀,怀柔术不可乱用。没原则的善良,最终往往因姑息放纵而自食其果。不过,千万别去回拍女人。好女不与女斗,好男更不与女斗。</font></p></div>
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灯光 发表于 2014-6-19 14:46:00

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<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>小倩</i>在2014-6-19 12:41:00的发言:</b><br/><span style="FONT-SIZE: large">好了,这次灌水就到这儿吧。</span>
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<p><font color="#000000" size="4">诗歌收藏了,待日后慢慢品味。</font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000" size="4">我也有点玩乏了。不在一个段位,拍砖都会觉得没劲。准备出去玩几天的。</font></p>
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<p><font color="#000000" size="4">小倩多保重!</font></p></div></td></tr></tbody></table></p>
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小倩 发表于 2014-6-19 14:51:00

<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 27px; text-indent: 24px; ">“如果真不在乎或真看不起你我,也不会有这么强烈的受伤反应和酸葡萄心理呀。”</span><div><div style="text-indent: 24px;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 27px;"><br/></span></div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 27px; text-indent: 24px; "><br/></span></div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 27px; text-indent: 24px; ">哎呀玛雅,就让那些女人鄙视你我吧!顺便拿根牛绳牵走她们的男人,也好让我们清静点!</span></div></div>
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